Choice of Discs…The Dilemma
Choice of discs has been a new point of contention in the DragonDogs house. When we first started playing disc, there was only Lilli – and she has a VERY hard bite. We started with Fastbacks cause that’s what everyone used. Long story short…Lilli had a bloody mouth every time we played and she would trash a disc in 5 throws or less.
That’s when we discovered Hero Discs. I’ve noticed over the past year, lots of people have switched over to Hero from Fastback – and there are so many varieties. I’m the one who handles all of the disc ordering in the house, so I know them all by name and weight and function.
We switched Lilli to Super Hero discs exclusively after trying all of the “Super” style discs (Super = hard bite/durable) – and pretty much everyone we talk to – all the old cats – think it’s ridiculous that we use such a heavy, soft disc for freestyle. We did come from an Ultimate background after all, so although Super Heros are the heaviest disc, they are still quite a bit lighter and smaller than the 175′s we’re used to tossing.
When we got Moxie -Tracy had tested her on Fastbacks, so I tried those out first. She had a really solid 85% catch percentage right out of the shelter. I didn’t want to mess with it, so I stuck with light discs. Fastbacks had the same effect though and Moxie’s typical ACD jaws of death literally tore through each disc in one session. I heard about the new Hero 235′s, so I got a set of those reading that they fly like a Fastback, but they are more durable. That is accurate – they don’t tear like Fastbacks do, but they still get really punctured and edgy after a few sessions – albeit lasting much longer than it’s predecessor.
Moxie and I have been practicing for our freestyle routine for the upcoming USDDN Fun in the Sun Qualifier this weekend and her catch percentage the past 2 weeks or so has tanked. The conditions have been windier and her inexperience has made it hard for her to read discs and again, being a cattle dog, she tends to pre-jump in anticipation. After 5 or so rough routines in a row, and most of the misses coming on her usually-rock-solid 20 yard toss and catch, we did a run-through with Jason’s Super Heros. It was also the first practice without 20 mph wind gusts too so go figure.
The result was much improved. She had a much higher catch percentage than with the 235′s and BOY does she LOVE to tug those rubbery discs!!! I can hang on fine if I keep her front feet off the ground, but if she gets full tug leverage with those discs – wow she’ll take my fingers off with her head whip! So I’ve decided this weekend for the event, I’ll run her with Super Heros and see how that works. I’ll likely catch all the same “heavy disc” flack from the veterans…
Next up – a post about all the different disc types, styles, weights, etc that we’ve tried over the past 3 years.




Jason Rigler
Thursday, 4th March 2010 at 8:56 pm
good post Love. The fastbacks are so much easier to toss for the hover effect. As you stated tho, i prefer the super heros. Mostly cuz it doesnt make the dogs bleed. Softer for the rare direct face impacts, and tiny bit more distance. Though rigid is better than floppy for distance.
I can play with either disc now, and so can the dogs which is cool. Remember when Lilli refused to play with fastbacks for a while?
Also the puppies seem to prefer the softer dics for the teething stage.
Kate Dumity
Saturday, 19th June 2010 at 1:44 pm
We are new to disc, so have no background from which to pull. I have been experimenting with different discs and am having a hard time . ruckus is a border-jack and have a very hard bite…I have been using Jawz as that is all I have found to hold up. How is that compared to Super Hero? I have also used the Hero Exta with moderate success. I started out with the smaller discs as he is only 15″ /19 lb. The larger discs work but her finds harder to catch and return. Any help is appreciated. Kate
Andrea Rigler
Wednesday, 23rd June 2010 at 8:00 am
Hi Kate.
For hard bite dogs, I suggest Hero brand discs over Jaws – any of the “Super” types. For a smaller dog, I’d definitely go with the Super Sonic. It’s still the same approximate weight of the fastback (110g) so it floats nicely, it’s smaller in size and still holds up to my cattle dog’s extreme bite.
Here’s a link to the blems:
http://www.herodiscusa.com/hero-super-sonic-blems.html